new 5.0 need some help...

[90fox2e]

alright so finally after months and months of trying, im getting the 5.0 ive had my eyes on for over a year now. its nice IMO and especially for the price. ill list the current mods that i know of first (i dont know all because the friend i bought it from bought it in a auction, i only know what i can see or hear) mods: longtube headers not sure what brand but not yet rusted out, x-pipe and flows dumped, mild cam, short shifter, clutch seems not so stock, weld draglites 15x8 and 15x6. ok now heres the things i need help with making it a dependable daily driver street/ strip car. the car has been sitting for about a year, he claims he started everyonce in awhile, but i dont know if its true or not. what do yall suggest taking care of first. obviously plugs, wires, cap and rotor, oil, coolant and thats about all i can think of right now. should i get a new timing chain, should i get a all new fuel system (injectors, lines, pump all that good stuff), just asking for some help so if anyone can assist please post up what you think. thanks

[speedfreak87]

put different wheels on it, (ponies or something) welds bend easily when daily driving.

The timing chain was more then likely changed with the cam change, so depending on mileage, you can leave it alone.. plugs, wires etc, change the oil, drive for about 500 miles, then change it again, drive for about 1000 miles, just incase if there is rust in the cyl walls, you don't want that flowing around in your system. after that switch to sythetic oil, change out the tranny fluid with synthetic, and same with the gear oil.

As far as fuel system, nothing much you can do other then change the filter, if you want to spend the money on new injectors you can, but you shouldn't have to, same with the pump, mustangs pumps are generally noisey, but if it's going bad it will be SUPER loud, also if it's aftermarket, it will be loud.. other then that just drive it.. should get the cobwebs out on it's own.

[90fox2e]

awesome thanks man, so its not to far off from what i was expecting. i was going to ask do you think i she get one of the engine gasket kits from summit and replace all of those as well or should they be alright. ill post up pics as soon as i get some.

oh ya and about the wheels i plan on going with either the chrome cobra r replicas or the chrome pony wheels eventually (still the 4 lug). im just going to fix up the engine and drivetrain first then work from the inside out on restoring it just how i want it.

[311-420]

i'd be sure to check the plugs before buying it. then the timing if the plugs check out and you decide to buy it and start driving it. next stop would be getting the oil/filter changed and new antifreeze.

[speedfreak87]

awesome thanks man, so its not to far off from what i was expecting. i was going to ask do you think i she get one of the engine gasket kits from summit and replace all of those as well or should they be alright. ill post up pics as soon as i get some.

oh ya and about the wheels i plan on going with either the chrome cobra r replicas or the chrome pony wheels eventually (still the 4 lug). im just going to fix up the engine and drivetrain first then work from the inside out on restoring it just how i want it.


unless you have any major leakes, then I wouldn't worry about the gasket set.. Also, do a compression test on the motor (if you can before you buy it) and also do a pressure test on the coolant system, that will find any coolant leaks.. change the belts and hoses also, especially the hoses that go to the heater core (dealer only part).

[90fox2e]

awesome thanks for yalls help so far, and ill keep updating this as i go along. i dont think that the intake is stock, but i could be wrong. it has been painted to match the color of the car. is there any way of telling if its aftermarker, and no there is no name that i could find on it.

[Stang6uy]

It's a ford just drive it..........I bought a coupe for 300 and just needed a fuel pump, sat for 3yrs.....put fuel pump in and drove it everyday till I sold it a year later and my buddy is still driving...

[ninety1fox]

cap and rotor, wires, oil and filter, coolant, optima battery, bg fuel cleaner, and sea foam the biatch. set at 14degree timing, adjust tps to .99, clean mass air with carb cleaner and boom, like new again!!!!!!!!

[speedfreak87]

awesome thanks for yalls help so far, and ill keep updating this as i go along. i dont think that the intake is stock, but i could be wrong. it has been painted to match the color of the car. is there any way of telling if its aftermarker, and no there is no name that i could find on it.


the after martket one will have a company name on it (ie trick flow, edelbrock) stockers don't.

[ninety1fox]

the after martket one will have a company name on it (ie trick flow, edelbrock) stockers don't.
it could be a typhoon!

[speedfreak87]

it could be a typhoon!


good point.. but it looks like an edelbrock.. ( unless they changed it)

[ninety1fox]

good point.. but it looks like an edelbrock.. ( unless they changed it)
i guess we'll have to wait for pictures to see for ourselves

[speedfreak87]

i guess we'll have to wait for pictures to see for ourselves


patiently waiting.. lol!

[ninety1fox]

patiently waiting.. lol!
yup, sounds like a good start on the mods though

[speedfreak87]

Yes it does.

[90fox2e]

i dont have any pics just yet, but it looks like it has a 4 barreled curves on top that go into one. (havent seen to many stock intakes so i dont know if thats all of them...please go easy on me). it also has the gt hood on it with the scoop, and it has no screen or anything so the air goes directly into the engine compartment.

[TRM8ER]

congrats Matt :mick:

[speedfreak87]

i dont have any pics just yet, but it looks like it has a 4 barreled curves on top that go into one. (havent seen to many stock intakes so i dont know if thats all of them...please go easy on me). it also has the gt hood on it with the scoop, and it has no screen or anything so the air goes directly into the engine compartment.


is it carbed or EFI??

[90fox2e]

its EFI. i think i saw you today JR, i was out changing the marque at work and heard a badass stang, turned and looked and sure enough it was a badass stang. anyways, i know its one step at a time, but i like to know my goals a little ahead of time. my goal is to get my car into anywhere from low 13's to high 12's with it still being my daily driver. i know alot of people will say just throw some spray in and ill get it, but thats not how i wanna do it. i want these numbers all motor. so what kinda mods will i be looking at. i was thinking some edelbrock heads not sure on what intake maybe holley, 70mm throttle body, mass air flow, some new roller rockers, mild cam, gears, longtubes, x-pipe, and alot of suspension and chassis mods and a good tune. i assume that should get me into mid 13's at least...i hope. whatever stuff though i was thinking bigger fuel injectors, but thats gonna make gas even worse. how much of a gain do you get bored to a 306 is it worth it?

high 12's would mean probably arround 360-380rwhp right? or am i way off on that one.

[TRM8ER]

its EFI. i think i saw you today JR, i was out changing the marque at work and heard a badass stang, turned and looked and sure enough it was a badass stang. anyways, i know its one step at a time, but i like to know my goals a little ahead of time. my goal is to get my car into anywhere from low 13's to high 12's with it still being my daily driver. i know alot of people will say just throw some spray in and ill get it, but thats not how i wanna do it. i want these numbers all motor. so what kinda mods will i be looking at. i was thinking some edelbrock heads not sure on what intake maybe holley, 70mm throttle body, mass air flow, some new roller rockers, mild cam, gears, longtubes, x-pipe, and alot of suspension and chassis mods and a good tune. i assume that should get me into mid 13's at least...i hope. whatever stuff though i was thinking bigger fuel injectors, but thats gonna make gas even worse. how much of a gain do you get bored to a 306 is it worth it?
Sorry Matt, wasn't me bro I was working today. I probably have driven my Cobra maybe 3 times in the past month and half due to all the work we have had.

[90fox2e]

well whoever it was they had a very nice car, it was the same color as your, but i only saw the back of it turning at the light. yall erally need to get together again soon at sonic, i wont have my car up and going till about the end of the month probably begining of march at the latest. for the time being its not the best looking, but give it some time. now it has a owner who will appreciate it and make it as good if not better then it once was.

[speedfreak87]

Heads , cam and intake should easily get you into the 12's.. you'd be surprised on how little hp you need to get there.. as long as it's tuned/dialed in you're golden.

[O'ranga'Stang]

its EFI. i think i saw you today JR, i was out changing the marque at work and heard a badass stang, turned and looked and sure enough it was a badass stang. anyways, i know its one step at a time, but i like to know my goals a little ahead of time. my goal is to get my car into anywhere from low 13's to high 12's with it still being my daily driver. i know alot of people will say just throw some spray in and ill get it, but thats not how i wanna do it. i want these numbers all motor. so what kinda mods will i be looking at. i was thinking some edelbrock heads not sure on what intake maybe holley, 70mm throttle body, mass air flow, some new roller rockers, mild cam, gears, longtubes, x-pipe, and alot of suspension and chassis mods and a good tune. i assume that should get me into mid 13's at least...i hope. whatever stuff though i was thinking bigger fuel injectors, but thats gonna make gas even worse. how much of a gain do you get bored to a 306 is it worth it?

high 12's would mean probably arround 360-380rwhp right? or am i way off on that one.

270rwhp will net high 12's with a set of drag radials on a sn95 car (94-04) a fox body weighs alot less!! this can be easily achieved with h/c/i

[90fox2e]

awesome well looks like heads cam intake and a tune are my first big performance mods. but im still wondering what kind of gains you get bored out to a 306? i know some of yall know.

[O'ranga'Stang]

awesome well looks like heads cam intake and a tune are my first big performance mods. but im still wondering what kind of gains you get bored out to a 306? i know some of yall know.


i'm sure some one here knows but for the mean time goto corral forums they have a very extensive 5.0 section you can search and find the answers to your questions!! :blkvnm:

[speedfreak87]

a 306 wont gain you much, but it would really depend on compression. the higher the compression the more power the motor is going to make.
but to give you an idea, this is my combo.
306 - 9.5-1 compression
ported gt40p heads
motorsport e-cam
victor jr intake (for a carb)
and a holly 750 double pumper.

I should be mid 11's on motor, and somewhere in the 10's on spray. oh, and it's a manual tranny.

[nmerrill]

Boring a motor out is not done to increase the power, it is done to clean the bores from the years of abuse they have recieved. It eliminates all the scoring and scratching the rings have dug in. Yes a 306 will have more power than a 302 with the same mods, but the difference in negligable. Now, and stroker is done to increase power, 331,347 etc.... Where the CI is increased dramatically.

[311-420]

when you buy heads and intake, its generally a really good idea to buy matching products. ex:edelbrock performer heads would be best coupled with performer intakes(dont use an edel. vic. jr intake if you only have performer heads). the heads and intake need to flow together not only a lot of air, but you want the air to be fast and not lazy.

for a cam, you cant really beat a custom grind cam for your application. comp cams makes some of the best(if not the best) and they also have a number you can call to tell them what you have done and they can recommend the best cam that they have for you, depending on how you want to run the car and how you want the car to run.

goodluck and welcome to 5.0s :blkvnm:

[90fox2e]

so what do you think would be a good combination for a 5.0 that is a daily driver and occasional track car. i want more then enough power to spare, yet still be streetable...if that makes any sense

[nmerrill]

I have the trickflow top end hit (heads, cam, intake) It is a really nice kit in my opinion. It came with ARP bolts, roller rockers, all gaskets, valve covers, etc... basically everything i needed. I put out 273RWHP with no tune, stock timing, and all accesories. I got a good deal on mine from a guy who bought it but couldnt pay for all of it, but i think they sell new at summit for 2200. There is the track heat or street heat, i have the track heat.

[311-420]

with edelbrock performer heads and intake, e-303 cam and 24lb. injectors my '94 made 295rwhp and 332rwtq when it was like 100* outside. i was running the stock 10* initial timing, according to the tuner(and common sense, i suppose) says that 5.0s LOOVE timing. they eat that **** it up, but i was too happy with the numbers at that point and didnt wanna burn my pistons up just to say i made over 300.